flave 3 hours ago

Better to link the actual study rather than what a know-nothing hack has to say about it: https://mmd.iammonline.com/index.php/musmed/article/view/111...

Nothing against the BBC but the most thoughtful journalist has all the scientific knowledge of Tarot Reader’s cat.

Anyway, n=56 which is fine I guess but leaves loads of margin for error.

Personally, I had a cystoscope and at the time had fancy health insurance so went to a bling London hospital and the surgeon insisted I listened to music - saying exactly what this article said. It lowers cortisol after, makes you less restless during and improves patient reported outcomes.

You can look up what a cystoscope is, I elected to do it with a blocker rather than with a general anaesthetic. All I will say is that track Shadowboxin’ by GLA is now completely unlistenable for me!

  • comradesmith 3 hours ago

    That is so incredibly rude of you. Science communication to the general public is valuable.

    Let’s not forget that the author is a person too, just cause you don’t like it doesn’t mean you’ve got any place to talk down on them.

    • flave 2 hours ago

      I’m sure the individual writer is smart educated and thoughtful, but the system of science journalism (science communication is different but equally flawed) is so bent-out-of-shape as to be effectively worthless.

      Like, take this exact article as a great example. I’m sure Mr Biswas is genuinely very intelligent and thoughtful and a great journalist but having him write a science article is unfair on him and on readers.

      Doesn’t even have an undergraduate in a science subject, has never worked as a scientist, and his job is as a national correspondent.

      Perhaps my wording prioritised humour over fairness - I’ll take the criticism on that. But I don’t think my core point was wrong. How can you “communicate” something you yourself don’t understand?

      Finally, I want to stress again - it’s not his fault. The system is broken.

      • terabytest 2 hours ago

        Can you point out the issues with the article?

      • tobr an hour ago

        > How can you “communicate” something you yourself don’t understand?

        This goes both ways: how can you (as a scientist) communicate something when you don’t understand communication?

        The answer to both is to let the person who understands it and the person who is good a communication collaborate.

    • dev_hugepages 2 hours ago

      I kind of understand where they come from: science vulgarization in pop news has been riddled with misinterpretation or lack of depth which can mislead the general public.

    • ssl-3 3 hours ago

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      • cedilla 2 hours ago

        I don't understand why anyone would think that this kind of snark and condescension is furthering the discussion in any way.

        A good thing for us all to keep in mind: we don't /have to/ share all our thoughts.

        • ssl-3 an hour ago

          If we were all following the guidelines here, then this little meta discussion about journalistic interpretation would have never even happened. We'd be discussing the topic, instead of the reporting of that topic.

          > Please submit the original source. If a post reports on something found on another site, submit the latter.

arethuza 2 hours ago

A while back I had to have a long and unpleasant dental procedure - a bone graft so I could get an implant in an area where the bone had been damaged - this took about 4 hours. During this time the dentist played music - mostly various works selected at random by Hans Zimmer.

At one point things got a bit intense as apparently I have very hard bones - which meant that quite a bit of force was being used. The music playing during this part of the procedure was "No Time for Caution" - which I thought was hilarious... and this fact kind of took my mind off of things.

bbarnett an hour ago

Some find music to be distracting, and therefore don't listen to it. This can build a general dislike of music.

I presume such souls may wither away and die, while in a coma, as a person "helpfully" plays very annoying sounds 24x7.

An alternate, is I do see some very strong preferences for music, with strongly expressed dislikes, even among music lovers. I can imagine the same, someone in a coma giving up and dying, to "get away" from the horror.

(Meant as an amusing thought, I doubt any would vacate this world to escape)

shevy-java 2 hours ago

I am always so peaceful when listening to heavy metal ... :D

I think the article should focus more on good music elements versus bad music elements. My brain gets annoyed at bad music. Good music can be useful though, in particular for relaxing. I normally dislike jazz-elements, but Sade for instance is acceptable (not pure jazz, but she uses jazzy elements).

  • lawgimenez an hour ago

    Heavy metal/hardcore is good music. Mumble rap is bad music.

  • dyauspitr an hour ago

    Good music is subjective. Aside from the guitar skills involved in shredding, I think heavy metal is probably the worst genre of music.

Havoc an hour ago

>Even as the drugs silence much of her brain, its auditory pathway remains partly active.

oh that's interesting. From headline I had assumed we're talking post op

thomasfl an hour ago

If music is so valuable to us humans, then why can't humanity make a site like wikipedia for free music? There is a new generation growing up used to streaming services costing 10 bucks a month.